Ike's Online Scraptacular
Oct 27 / 2:24pm

Dear Tennessee fans

Please stop watching this clip like it is the Zapruder film:

The fact is that Alabama blocked your field goal and gained possession.

Yes, Terrence Cody removed his helmet, but it doesn’t really matter whether it happened before or after the clock hit zero.

Alabama was going to get the ball.

Penalties about the removal of headgear are assessed on the next play, just like penalties for excessive celebration (which do not negate touchdowns.)

If you’d like, we can go back to Bryant-Denny and mark off the 15 yards, and let Alabama take a knee. But we can’t, because there was no time on the clock, so there is no mark-off and no ensuing possession.

You played one hell of a game, against a team you had two weeks to prepare against. You are clearly on the way back to competitiveness, which is great for the SEC.

But don’t cheapen yourselves with conspiracy theories and meritless complaints.

4 comments

Oct 27, 2009
Jamie said...
First, if you want to do any more reading, reference the 2009-2010 "NCAA Football Rules and Interpretations"
http://www.ncaapublications.com/Uploads/PDF/Football_Rules_5_2204c0005d-845f-4813-8391-54f15136079d.pdf

And let's go ahead and cover the scenarios that may come up in discussions based on (a) time left, (b) who had posession, and (c) any penalties:

Scenario 1:
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(a) 10 seconds left after play is dead
(b) Alabama recovered
(c) Cody was flagged

Outcome: Alabama would've been penalized 15 yards from the spot of the recovery and it would've Alabama's ball 1st and 10

Scenario 2:
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(a) 0 seconds left after play is dead
(b) Alabama recovered
(c) Cody was flagged

Outcome: Game over -- helmet removal is a live-ball foul treated as a dead ball foul and would've been enforced on the subsequent play, however, since there is no time left on the clock, there can be no subsequent play and the game ends.

Scenario 3:
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(a) 10 seconds left after play is dead
(b) Tennessee recovered
(c) Cody was flagged

Outcome: Tennessee ball and 3rd down, only they'd be 15 yards closer since there was a "next play" to enforce the helmet penalty on

Scenario 4:
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(a) 0 seconds left after play is dead
(b) Alabama recovered
(c) Cody was flagged
EXTRA (d) Game was tied when time expired

Outcome: Regular period expires, overtime starts and the personal foul against Alabama would be assessed on the subsequent possesion (either it'd move Alabama's starting point WAY back if they got the ball first, or move Tennessee's up if they got the ball first)

Scenario 5:
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(a) 10 seconds left after play is dead
(b) Tennessee recovered
(c) Cody was NOT flagged

Outcome: Tennessee ball and 3rd down at point of recovery.

Scenario 6:
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(a) 10 seconds left after play is dead
(b) Alabama recovered
(c) Cody was NOT flagged

Outcome: Alabama's ball and 1st down at point of recovery.

…and finally what actually happened:

Scenario 7:
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(a) 0 seconds left after play is dead
(b) Alabama recovered
(c) Cody was NOT flagged

Outcome: Game over;

…but oddly, here what REALLY happened:

Scenario 8:
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(a) 0 seconds left after play is dead
(b) NO ONE recovered
(c) Cody was NOT flagged

Outcome: Note item (b). If you watch the film of the play, the ball comes to a complete stop before the Alabama players scoop it up. Once a live ball comes to a complete stop in the field of play, the ball is dead. It can’t be picked up and advanced or “recovered”. Check out page FR-79 in the rulebook PDF at the top of this post. Scroll down to Article 3, item f. That’s REALLY what happened. So, if there was time left after the kick and no one had touched it, Tennessee would’ve gotten another shot on the subsequent 3rd down. They actually “recovered” by default.

Oct 28, 2009
Thomas said...
I am by no means a Tennessee fan. In fact, they have come to be one of my least favorite teams. But being a D-II referee myself, Cody should have been penalized and the outcome should have been like Scenario 8 above. Tennessee should have been given a re-kick. From your abrasive manner, I would argue that you are simply an elitist Alabama fan who thinks you can never lose. The simple fact is Tennessee should have had another shot.

Now, did Tennessee deserve to win that game? No. They had missed opportunity after missed opportunity. But they do deserve the fairness of the rule, which in this case (as in so many cases) was just overlooked.

Oct 28, 2009
Isaac Pigott said...
Thomas, if you look at the video, you will see that Alabama did scoop up the ball.

The clock had hit 0.0, but the ball was recovered by Alabama.

Ergo, no re-kick.

The helmet rule is in reference to excessive celebration, which is why it is assessed as a dead ball foul. Otherwise, excessive celebration flags would nullify touchdowns instead of being enforced on the subsequent play.

Please read the relevant rules linked from Jamie's comment. They come from the NCAA, not the SEC or RammerJammer.com.
Oct 29, 2009
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